Sunday, November 03, 2013

Sg Limau by-election

1. I hope Barisan win this strong-hold of PAS.
2. PAS, should consider joining Barisan instead of staying in a very uncomfortable marriage with DAP.
3. PAS should also stop using Hudud as an election campaign because we all know that PAS will not be able to do it under Pakatan with PKR and the strong DAP opposing it.
4. The best way forward for PAS, for the sake of Muslims, is to unite with UMNO.
5. When Muslims are united, so will Malaysians.

Wednesday, July 17, 2013

MF: Full of racist chauvinist Malaysians

Memang dasar Cina DAP betul nak tembak apa saja yang boleh when comes to Bumiputra-Muslims. Racist chauvinistic Chinese traits are being shown as much as ever since May 13 election.

Dah kalah tu kalah laaa... Stop blaming and attacking Islamic, Bumiputra values.

I did TITAS when I was in UiTM Malaysia. At first I thought it's a syllabus that siswazah boleh tidur je. Turned out, its one of the best subjects. Why? That was the first time my view about Jews change. Before that, as a typical Muslim raised in Malaysia, we were told the Jews are to be condemned. Kau tanyalah Melayu dekat Malaysia bila datang soal Yahudi, semua akan melenting. Ingat tak insiden Avram Grant kena boo dekat stadium? I was not one of them! Why? Because of TITAS!

The good ustaz told me about how the Jews of the modern world are the decendants of the good Jews who follow the religion of Moses which was originally also... Islam. The pharoahs and his supporters were killed by famine and the world at that time dah pun terkelangkup (surely racist chauvinist Chinese DAP tak paham this word).

Takda langsung soal nak kutuk agama lain ke, bangsa lain ke. So just because this racist chauvinistic Chinese DAP MP cakap macam ni, engkorang dah terus nak caya and nak cakap TITAS tu jahat.

Piiiraaah! Go to the class first then complain. I have my own experience to tell and because of TITAS I am now a changed man. My thoughts on the Jews, on the Iranians Shiahs, the Christians, the Buddhists the Hindus all change. I swear on my grandpa's grave that what I stated above is true. I dunno if you can find them on my blog because I remember writing about this experience before.

And by God, it was from the TITAS. I passed the subject by simply attending the classes. Also, I thought this subject is only compulsory for Muslims.

And what the heck is this about aborigines pulak? TITAS bunuh orang asli rights? Tak payah laa nak twist and turns and attacking Islam in this great Ramadhan (and you think you will get away with it. And you think brave Muslims will just shut up like some others in this forum yang kononnya tak racist ramai kawan bukan Melayu?). As far as I know, Orang Asli are Bumiputras and they should receive all the bumirights and special position as enshrined in the Constitution.

I wonder why there is no topic here about ALVIVI sexbloggers who were parading their small, ugly assets and think it's cool? Not to mention buat ucapan bukak puasa dengan babi wangi dan menyelerakan? Because they are Chinese? Gimme a break!

TITAS to make compulsory for all Muslim students in local and private varsities. Hell yeah. As far as I know, it's all good.

And those racist, chauvinist people regardless of race, veiled-attacking Islam should just look at themselves in the mirror and repent. Racism is so 90s!

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Hide detailsCharis Quay Huei Li ( to contacts3: 15 AM GroupsTo: mf-kopitiam@googlegroups.comDear all, There has not been much heated debate on this list in a while, so below my thoughts on the so-called 'Islamic Civilisation' class (TITAS) that may be soon imposed on our university students.

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Dear all,

There has not been much heated debate on this list in a while, so below my thoughts on the so-called 'Islamic Civilisation' class (TITAS) that may be soon imposed on our university students.

My conclusion: it's MICO in disguise and is a smokescreen to get our attention away from other 'unIslamic' (and generally inhuman) goings-on, such as an amendment to the Aboriginal People's Act which may see the Orang Asli losing >80% of the land they claim. And of course, there is the TPPA and a few other things like that happening at the moment. Small wonder that the 'Allah issue' has been brought up again.

Will Malaysians fall into the trap? That is the question.

All counter-arguments, brickbats, hot coals etc. are welcome. But I may not respond till next week.

Best wishes,


1. Letter to my MP regarding compulsory Islamic Civ. in Malaysian universities

[With some slight modifications. I am from the parliamentary constituency of Beruas, represented by YB Dato' Ngeh Koo Ham.]

Dear YB Ngeh,

Regarding these articles, if the reporting is accurate, as a constituent of Beruas, I would like to register my disagreement with some of the views expressed --- especially: “How will this help those who are studying to become lawyers, doctors and engineers?” --- and to propose a different approach, which I hope will be more constructive.

It is never a loss when we learn about other civilisations. Indeed, when one studies different civilisations (or even the same civilisation but at different points in history) one can learn from their mistakes and also their achievements. But of course nothing must be imposed on the students.

What we are observing now in French universities is that the hyper-specialisation of doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. is leading to people who only know how to 'execute' --- who can build wonderful railways, nuclear centres and what not --- but who do not know why they are doing all these things and who do not have any larger vision for the world and their place in it. This is in part due to the semi-destruction and 'chopping up' of the Sorbonne (and other French universities) which started during the Revolution, continued under Napoleon and has only become worse since --- such that lawyers only study law, physicists only study physics etc. and there is no formation of the whole person. I believe this may be one of the root causes (or at least one of the correlate symptoms) of the European crisis (economic, but also moral, leadership, cultural and civilisational) that we are going through now.

At the moment I and others are fighting very hard to have the humanities (and social sciences) re-introduced at the Université Paris-Sud, which is basically half of the 'chopped up' Sorbonne's old science faculty. As part of this effort, I may be teaching a philosophy/history of ideas course in 2014-2015.

For Malaysia, I propose as a solution that diverse civilisational studies should be offered: Western European, Slavic, Indian, Japanese, American, African, Middle Eastern etc. but that none should be imposed. Malaysia and Malaysians are in a unique position to study and learn from many cultures as we are already a multicultural society and we have ties to many other countries around the world. This is a huge advantage that we have over other countries, e.g. France. We must let this advantage blossom rather than letting certain parties turn it into a disadvantage.

Another proposal is to develop the field of South East Asian civilisational studies. SEA 'entered into history' several centuries ago now and yet we do not seem to have our own identity. Instead, we are borrowing from from the West, the Middle East, the Far East and everywhere. It is time to develop our own identity especially in view of growing intra-ASEAN ties, including the ASEAN EC in 2015. This will also help build up Malaysian national identity instead of pulling us in different directions.

I would be happy to share further observations about the education system here (and in the US) if this will help your reflection.

Best wishes,

Charis Quay.

Lecturer, Physics Department, Université Paris-Sud // +33(0) //

2. Some initial comments in a discussion with some friends (of diverse religious backgrounds)

informal reports from local unis says that sometimes the 'lecturers' are zealots who turn the 'civilisation' course into a 'conversion' course. these should be checked. if true, i don't think this is doing islam any favours or improving its image. one suggestion i made is to have ALL students take a 'multicultural' class on a culture they are not familiar with. (another is in the letter above.) but before it can be implemented, all the zealots have to be weeded out, whether from the Islamic civilisation course, the Russian civ. course, the Western civ. course, the Indian civ. course or the Buddhist civ. course: our neighbours in Myanmar have shown that 'even' Buddhists can be extremists. is the western silence on the rohingya massacre due to the fact that the 'west' can't wrap their heads around this? (A petition:

This sort of 'multicultural' requirement was in place at my alma mater and i believe in many american unis. so it can be done...again, provided there are no zealots of any kind involved, whether buddhist, hindu, atheist, shia, catholic, lutheran, sunni, alevi, sufi, ibadi, s.i.b., anglican or other. there were some atheist zealots at my old uni, but i survived. ** i believe that each student learning about other cultures (even 'strange' ones for us like russian, japanese, african etc.) will help broaden people's minds and help us to get closer to '1malaysia' and maybe 'one global village'. but not imposing one course on everyone: that will only increase distrust and hatred.

the immediate problem for malaysia is that the trappings of islam (i do not say islam itself) have been used to serve certain political purposes: are not even at the level of discussing 'fundamentals' about different ways of seeing the world as it were, because we are stuck at another level of 'power plays'.

the challenge for whoever would lead malaysia is this: can they offer a way for malaysians to think difference as peace and unity instead of violence --- violence either in the form of Apollonian 'totality' or Dionysian chaos? (The former is very close to what we have at the moment.) i think malaysians are longing for a true vision of peace but so far nobody has stepped forward to offer this. also, this is a question that is facing many across the world at the moment. malaysians, and especially malaysian leaders, are in a unique position to provide an answer which will be a huge step forward for mankind --- or to fail miserably.

3. Further comments in the same discussion

[I was passed the link to the TITAS syllabus.]

Dear friends, I have had the opportunity to look a little more closely at the TITAS syllabus now and I have come to a rather distressing conclusion. So distressing that I'm getting this down in writing before I go to bed: TITAS is MICO in disguise.

To understand what I mean by MICO, see:

TITAS seems almost like a 'Malaysian studies' course, except it takes a particular view of Malaysia which I think is actually very harmful to Malaysia.

1. There is no discussion of Orang Asal. The subliminal message is Our dear Kadazan, Murut, Bajau, Lun Bawang, Jakun, Sakai etc. friends: you do not exist. Full stop. Or, 'you don't have any culture', which amounts to the same thing. To exist, you must now choose: do you want to be M, I or C? Pick your side in the 'great Malaysian civil war', but you cannot be yourselves.

2. The syllabus is designed to divide Malaysians into hard categories and to tell them that 'these "civilisations" will always be different and they will always be antagonistic and mutually exclusive. Particularly worrying are the parts about 'interactions with other cultures'. What will be said here? I would not be surprised if the discussion is framed in terms of conflict and 'irreconciliable differences'. I am also worried about the 'survival' chapters, whic might be what Kessler describes as 'trying to induce a siege mentality': All this is totally contrary to any effort to build up a Malaysian identity and Malaysian unity.

It is clear that there is no room in this syllabus for anyone who, like Farish Noor, dares to call himself a Javanese-Dutch-Indian-Arab. There is no room in this syllabus for any of these stories:

Imagine a Malaysia where people went around calling themsleves Hakka-Scots-Lun Bawang. Or Jakun-Irish-Sumatran. Or Kutien-Irish-Burmese. Or Keralan-Hokkien-Murut. Or Tamil-Temiar-Batak-Peranakan. Would it help Malaysian unity? Of course, by creating 'human bridges' across different cultures and identities. And the fact is that many Malaysians are very mixed. But true Malaysian unity would hurt certain interests. The interests of coalitions whose parties are divided accoring to the 'headings' of the TITAS syllabus chapters above.

In GE13, many Malaysians rejected race-based interests. The political parties then had two choices in order to remain relevant: 1. Change (e.g. disband or merge race-based parties), or 2. Try to make those Malaysians striving for unity 'racist as usual' again. It looks like certain parties have made their choice clear. This syllabus is clearly designed to firmly divide Malaysians into hermetic categories and to convey the idea that these 'hard categories' of people should never 'mix'. This is a truly sad day for Malaysia. The presentation of this course as 'Islamic civilisation' was a clever trick to distract attention from the real contents and also to provoke a reaction from Perkasa analogue groups from other religions. And it succeeded.

Not incidentally, as explained in my article above, this 'way of seeing Malaysia' is also used to quietly 'wipe out' the Orang Asal. Is it any coincidence that the Aboriginal People's Act is being amended at the same time that TITAS came out?

My friends, certain people are trying to distract us by making us hate each other while they quietly steal away the tanah pusaka of the Orang Asli. (East Malaysian natives may be next but for the moment there are too many of them in the cabinet.)

Let's not fall into this trap. I hope that no true Muslim will fall for this. Nor any true believer of any other religion. Nor atheists who believe in the dignity of the human person and the common good.

Let us expose TITAS for what it is (another attempt to divide and rule Malaysians) and move on to the real fight. Let us unite and fight for our weaker brethren whose land is being taken away from them.



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Thursday, May 16, 2013

Bandar Rimbayu (The Chimes) - Updated

It was the first time I went for any balloting (including any general or non-general election!). It was one nice crisp March morning that I had to wake up earlier than usual to queue for a property that I feel will be set to be a nice place to stay. For those who are unaware (or somewhat confused with my nickname), I am a Dutch-Indo-Javanese-Malay Malaysian hence qualified as a group called the Bumiputras.

Bandar Rimbayu the Chimes were launched last weekend on the 2nd of March 2013. Despite the skeptics and the blatant accusation of a property market slowing down, about 3000 people turned up for the balloting launch of the first phase of a huge, green concept of a township. The development is located 3.2km away to the south of Kota Kemuning. This part of Selangor has yet to have a retail mall. It will further increase the prices of properties in Kota Kemuning and Alam Impian as they are freehold land (minimum 700k now). Prices starting from 577k before bumi discount and there is also an RM8000 rebate, free wifi on the first year, free security on the first year (provided the Guarded Neighbourhood Scheme was approved) and free legal fees and stamping fees for SnP. Other features of the properties include Rain-water Harvesting System and Solar Powered Water Heater.

Only 115 units were made available for Non-Bumis on that day. The rest were either taken up by the internal people or being reserved for Bumis. As 3 bumis were selected on that day, an extra 3 places were balloted to Non-Bumis. The bumi quota for this launch is 50:50 which is still okay compared to other launches in Shah Alam like Laman Glenmarie 2 and Denai Alam (70:30). IJM is known for strict adherence on the market conduct set out by the authority thus Bumi Lot would ultimately means any unit taken up by a Bumi. Only 25% completion of the said phase, 50% of the Bumi leftovers would be released to Non-Bumis. The other 50% will only come after 50% completion.

My thoughts on the township? I am always skeptical about leasehold projects but I keep being reminded of the success stories of Kota Damansara and Damansara Perdana. The vast land reserved for retail and commercial, added with a green township concept somehow exponentially increased my great feeling about the township. Furthermore, people do not care already about whether a property is a leasehold or freehold. Then come the question of bumi lots and how the bumi investors should avoid buying them.

Well, if you are buying for own stay, Bandar Rimbayu seems like a nice place to grow your family. With an affordable pricing of minimum 580k for the normal intermediate 22x75 and 850k for a normal corner lot, one should see the corner lot as a great bargain, provided that the purchasers can afford. A small fry like me would settle for a nice, private, intermediate unit with a number that is desirable by all community. Being a bumi has it perks and drawbacks, especially when you are a target after many of the Non-bumi hopefuls' number was not called or when you are only allowed to sell the property to a fellow Bumi from the Malays or Kadazans or Ibans etc. Having said that, it is also worth mentioning that any leasehold properties would need the consent of the authority so the process is still a hassle. But for the bumi lots, the process to transfer to a non-bumi secondary purchaser would be much tougher. This is a reality,

However, being a responsible property investor, I do not flip or speculate. Property investment should always be a long term investment. I am buying to provide for my future unborn children who I predict would face a difficult task to buy their own landed house. There are people who flip to make short gains and these are the people who contribute to the ever skyrocketing prices of Klang Valley properties. But remember, remember, the lands are getting much lesser. And any right thinking adult would feel high rises won't be a suitable place to grow your family (at least to me). I would not worry much if there are less bumi now that are less wealthy than the Chinese Malaysians, evidently by the huge turnout of the Chimes launching.

Imagine a huge hall containing about 3000 fellow Malaysians. Only 14 Bumiputeras/Indian-Muslims came to buy! Malaysian Indians accounted about 20 hopefuls with only 4 who got lucky. The rest left grumbling and honking their car all the way out of the Holiday Villa Hotel, Subang. Frustrated. Some were heard cursing the Bumi policy as if I do not understand what they were saying. None has done it to my face however if not... there would be blood! Only kidding. I know Malaysians are mostly scaredy cats. Kidding again!

For a 550k property, if it is your first time buying a property for own stay, you would need a combined income of RM6,811 which is RM3,411 each. (based on 4.2% interest and 35 years duration). I am talking about married couple with young kids and I don't think there is any issue if your husband is a pengkid (tomboy) in Malaysia in order to qualify for a joint-loan. In my frank opinion, the price is still affordable. As I mentioned in my tweets earlier, if you still feel you can't afford it, look away. But shelter is a basic necessity for every family. Forget about your gold, stocks, direct-selling "air-market" investment for a while and simply think about providing the basic necessity for your children. In the game of capitalism, the consumer should be smart. If you think the price is ridiculous, avoid.

I was the 120th person to choose a unit and the ceremony ended around 345pm. It was so long (but the food was great) but even though I was not that lucky to get to choose earlier as my number was not picked, I was lucky enough the unit I grabbed was good thanks to my Bumi status. For the Bumis who complained about not being able to buy a landed house to stay, I urge not to wait any longer as the prices for landed properties will not go any lower for a 22x75 double storey, below 500k. Do not settle for a pigeon hole that cost 100k cheaper than half a million landed property because at the end of the day, you just want to lead a happy and comfortable life.

Next on the cards: Setia Eco Hill, Semenyih and Kwasa Damansara.

Sunday, April 07, 2013

Stupid to buy a car?

Yes, car is a liability.

But when you need it, especially when the public transport is poor, it has become a necessity.

Of course it's stupid to buy a car just to show off your status.

"You buy local car (Malaysian context), you are LAU YAA.' some say.

(removed. Because he is my friend and my brother).

Others, break the bank to buy German cars. Cheapest available is the Volkswagen Polo Sedan.

Not as fast as Polo TSI, the CKD version is quite affordable so everyone who likes German cars would be enticed by it.

Cars are so expensive in Malaysia. And yet people buy Porsche Panamera. Actually it doesn't matter if you are a fan and if you really can afford it. But hey come on, it's stupid if you buy a car to please others.

Buy a car to please YOURSELF.

I am driving a 2008 Camry. Never in my life I would imagine buying a Camry. No, not because I'm an anglophile like some people. It's because growing up, I managed to see how my father, who is a fan of Mercedes started so humbly buying his first Mercedes, a second hand 190E. Since then, I became a fan. A former classmate Pajai told me how his father changed from one Camry to the another. A snob as I was, I just gave him a condescending smirk.

Now, I'm driving a Camry! It's just one helluva reliable car.

So why I think it's not stupid for me to buy a car? This topic was preordained by a post on Facebook by the great property investor Faizul Ridzuan (Paikor as he is known). He was tagging a link to a website encouraging people to manage money better. Here in Riyadh, the car prices are so cheap. I bought the car on second hand and it was also sold below market price. I was that lucky to be offered the car by a fellow Malaysian here in Riyadh. Not only I love my first car, I also had it repaired cosmetically.

I guess it's just if you have the passion for cars, it's not really stupid to buy one that you like, as long as your conscience is clear. You might want to prioritize in life but hey, why keep so much money if you don't really use it?

So there's no really right or wrong. (removed).

Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Bandar Puncak Alam (Shah Alam 2)

My great father bought a house here in Bandar Puncak Alam for me because he knew the house prices would increase and we would not be able to afford it. It was bought for only RM150,000 in 2005 and wanted us to be thankful so we went to clean it almost every fortnight.

I remember cleaning the lawn and fixing the lamps and water system. It was the first time I knew about property but I was only in university back then.

Now after about 8 years, the development is still slow in Puncak Alam. I am always a fan of the underdogs and of course with the bandar having a soft spot in my heart, I will always root for Bandar Puncak Alam. The population mix is not something we can be proud of but slowly but surely, it would be a good city.

I was told Tesco is coming to Puncak Bestari and with the links through new highways, Puncak Alam's "ulu" status would soon be history.

But for one thing I mentioned to my dad when we were on the way to the house. The distance is always a problem. In 10 years time this would be a thing of the past as more developments are set in neighbouring towns.

Monday, March 18, 2013

Double blow for Pakatan

Pakatan Rakyat has suffered a double blow to wrest Putrajaya from the ruling coalition as the 13th General Election looms. The death of Private Investigator Balasubramaniam due to heart illness has not been a good timing as he was only about to "reveal all" in a nation-wide campaign. Then came a series of pictures purportedly taken from a video feed featuring two men in compromising positions where one of them appears to be of Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

Conspiracy theorists may have suggested the former was killed while the latter was not the man who featured in the video. However, reality would soon settle-in to the minds of even the hardcore supporters as hard proofs would soon be released. Some supporters have even admitted they do not care if the man in the video was Anwar Ibrahim as long as "ABU" (Anyone But UMNO) movement is implemented when choosing the new Government. While the UMNO-ists might see this as a veiled attacks against the Malays as a whole, many has also seen UMNO as a party drenched with filth of corruption.

A large section of PAS party leaders and supporters have declared unfavourable to the idea of Anwar Ibrahim becoming the new Prime Minister if Pakatan were to take over the Federal Government. The notion of this movement might have stemmed from the sentiments among the grassroots supporters, in which I could only assume, Anwar's moral scandals. The sudden U-turn made by the leaders could not have been timely as it was first mentioned publicly only months before the impending General Election.

This is somewhat disastrous because Pakatan Rakyat could not afford to show differences in opinion among them to the public. They have not even agreed on the same logo or if the Buku Jingga is taking into account the aspirations of PAS to make Malaysia and Islamic (or welfare state).

At this point PAS should not make public any differences of opinion against sister parties like DAP or PKR. Seat allocations have yet to be confirmed and I expect PAS to actually fight for having the majority of seats contested, if not won, in which Anwar himself would not allow. There is a certain feeling among their leaders that PAS should actually lead Pakatan Rakyat, not PKR. Some even suggested that it is normal to elect the Prime Minister from the party that won the most federal seats but Anwar Ibrahim has insisted that they should have two Deputies, one who is Lim Kit Siang and the other should be Hadi Awang.

Personally I feel that PAS is playing a dangerous game by ignoring the two incidents mentioned and trying to push Ustaz Hadi to be the rightful Prime Minister. It is either they accept Anwar as the Pakatan's Prime Minister or join Barisan Nasional when the time comes.

Unless they are confident enough that they could win more seats than PKR and keep Pakatan intact in which is very unrealistic to me.

Thursday, January 31, 2013

Adlin Binti Abdul Jalil

Actually she doesn't deserve to be in my blog but of course, since she's asking for it, here goes.

I am no shrink but by the words chosen by her in her writings, I conclude that.

1. She is mentally ill.
2. She is scarred for life of whatever trouble she faced before. Blaming it on Islam.
3. She is an attention seeker, in which she has won, only in a bad way.
4. She is not pretty and made it worse on herself by colouring her hair blonde. Since I have been wanting to become a beauty pageant judge, I would rate her as 10... out of 10 billion.
5. Good news that Interpol has co-operated to bring her to justice. But don't forget those Malay-liberals-civil society who demand freedom of speech (or lies).
6. I bet no normal man would do her and her smile is so sinister it could be used for anti-premature ejaculation.
7. Whatever it is, her fate is sealed. Another waste of life.

Monday, January 14, 2013

Shiah not the real enemy

1. I am in the opinion that Shiah became what they are now strictly because of politics.
2. Since the political events happened more than a thousand years ago, it is hard to simply throw away the Shiah beliefs.
3. If you scrutinized thoroughly, you would agree with me that the Shiah practices coincide with some political events happened more than a thousand years ago.
4. For example, Eid Al-Ghadeer is a festive observed by the Shi-ites to commemorate the appointment of Ali bin Abi Talib as the immediate successor of Prophet Muhammad.
5. Abu Bakar As-Siddiq took over instead and Ali's supporters became enraged and turned into who we call the Shi-ites today.
6. Ali was willing to wait for his turn but a civil war ensued.
7. This is politics and after more and more blood was spilled including of Prophet Muhammad's grandsons, Hasan and Hussein, the Shi-ites became more and more agitated. 
8. The effect was long lasting. Stories of Ali, Hasan and Hussein were passed from generation to generation.
9. The stories of the prophet's son-in-law and grandsons being murdered, were surely heart-wrenching. They would attract more Shiah believers.
10. To me the civil war was the darkest history of the Islamic world.
11. The prophet had done his best to remind the people to stick together as an ummah, and never to worship him as a God, after his death.
12. The wives, who should be regarded as the Mothers of all Muslims, were not allowed to re-marry, to avoid people from claiming the children from this marriage to be "sacred".
13. The message is clear. There is no prophet after Muhammad. People from his lineage are normal human beings like us.
14. In fact, Prophet Muhammad was also human. He ate, slept, had children, married and died.
15. Difference is only that he was chosen by Allah to lead the last people of the world.
16. One should know that obsession and fanaticism led to the creation of sects including Shiah.
17. In a Malaysian context, if fanaticism is to be applied when supporting a political party, this would split the ummah more.
18. To me it does not matter if you support PAS or UMNO or PKR as long as we share the same Islamic belief.
19. Accusing others of "infidels" is somewhat extreme and if not curbed, who knows after a thousand years, PAS or UMNO became a religious sect just like Shiah.
20. The story of Shiah is a lesson to be learned by Muslims.
21. Some of you would just attack Shiah people like no tomorrow, without realising you are becoming one in a different label
22. Shiah used to be our brothers in hand. Sadly, because of politics, we are so much apart.
23. I dream that one day Islam would become one again.